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There is, without a doubt, an element of longing in the 12th. (anyone who has ever fallen in love and had planets with that person in 12th composite will know..). what kind of compassion do you think can be generated from a composite mars in 12th house? Most of my relationships are like that . His Neptune conjuncts my SN orb 003 Chiron in 12th House - Synastry and Meaning - Astro Majesty In our synastry chart, we also have exact Chiron/Venus opposition. I am NOT usually like this. Useful Chiron in 12th House Crystals Jasper Malachite Professional Readings 2023 Yearly 30 Minute Astrology Report Recent Articles Ceres Aspects Lilith Aspects Juno in Houses Ceres in Houses Lilith in Houses Astrological Events New Moon in Taurus Increasing pleasures May 19 2023 Jupiter in Taurus Productive Growth Thats for start. You have a strong synastry and a strong 1st house in the composite, and of course that makes a difference. Thank You so much for Your answer! composite moon and saturn are in fifth house. where is very intense connection and I can feel things youve described but also I can see it as long term.. A very painful and challenging connection. Chiron In 12th House, Chiron In Twelfth House Meaning, Chiron In 12th We go down a lot of wrong alleyways. I had a relationship with someone, in our composite chart, we have a stellium in the 12th house Sun, Juno, Venus and Uranus. Hi Evelyne. !Chiron is associated with the emotional wounds we receive early on in our lives. It often helps to work together on projects they find meaningful, or to spend some time doing community or charity work. If I murdered this illusion, it would be like if I murdered my own soul ; I just cant . Im afraid that you would need a full synastry reading in order to make sense of the situation for you and your wife. Our strongest aspect is Saturn Trine Moon. Your article is amazing! The point is not that the telepathy is an illusion, the point is that its real, but it doesnt matter. Im kinda tired of dancing with men who enjoy attempting control and am tired of the endlessly unavailable creatures that keep crossing my path in life. I dont know why im writing you this because uncounsciously know this relationship was all about love and let go. My life seems to cycle in and out of being able to bring that 12 house/Neptune energy into the everyday world. Our composite sun is in the 7 house. This person and I believe were soulmates, and I would go further to say were twin flames as we share some many parallels in our lives, similarities, and all the other strange features of a twin flame relationship as describe by many. There are two conjunctions with ascendent as well. Arent these positive aspects good enough to sustain a relationship down-to-earth, telling me to forgive and try again or just simply blowing the matter worse and prolonging it?. 12th House seems to be the most frightening of all the houses to me, because the primal urge towards each other is such a deep and profoundly spiritual one, that you think, theres no way I could find this depth with another. Im not exactly sure what our future holds, but I do know we are exactly where we are supposed to be XOXO ~ Thank you for the lovely insights!!! In other words, that planetary energy might have to do with dealing with their collective, rather than personal, expression. I dont have enough information, but the chart emphasis leads me to believe that you are right in your analysis, that the partnership finds its life in the upper houses. The 8th House: A Good Death? - Chirotic Journal This is not only with regards to emotions but also physically. Chiron in the Composite Chart - The Dark Pixie Astrology He is a pisces rising with neptune conjunct his midheaven. (excuse my bad English) Often, Sun/Neptune relationships just fade away or dissolve without anyone knowing why. In composite, we have sun, mercury and part of fortune in the 12th. And yes, with Uranus squaring, the tendency would be to want to break away rather than face what is wrong. what do you think it means to have such much weight in the 1st and 12th houses? Thrown/compelled into a private relationship that feels confusing and unavoidable at the same time. Astrology Symbols, Elements, Modalities, & House Types. Thank you. I have my sun in the 12th house of my natal chart, and we both have venus in the 12th house of our natal charts. If we do things out of fear or for security, and we dont listen to the call to step onto our proper path in life, we are serving the ego instead of the soul. Mine is conjunct with his moon. Its not special, its common. With 4, 8 and 12 emphasized, youll have to deal with one another in an emotionally honest way, no matter what karma you have to work out together. The fatedness of it all doesnt make sense at times, like union of the subconscious. Im from a country in southamerica. great post- thank you! Composite 12th house in Taurus= Issues with Stubborness. Our mars is in cap in 3rd house and mars in 11th house libra. Who cares? It is often said about this house that everyone else see's it before you do. I have met my match. Your generation, the one with Pluto/Uranus opposite Saturn in Virgo/Pisces, came into this life with a huge burden. Doing stuff without thinking clearly. Judy, Im sorry about your relationship with your daughter. Thanks Dawn! I really feel like there is a wolf howling in a forest at night and I hear his call , I know I am the female wolf and that the call is for me and I have to go to him now. When transit Uranus is in the composite 12th house, you may make changes together but quietly behind the scenes, with no one watching. Thank You for Your answer and best regards from Hungary! Then we hurt each other. Chiron in Capricorn, Chiron in the 12th House - Astrology Owl Weve known each other for a decade??? Fated, for sure, but lessons to learn, or something that we must finish? The Autumn Schedule is Here! I found composite Saturn on the 12th house, trining the composite Sun/Venus/Merc on the 8th and sextile to the Moon on the 2nd. Written in 12thouse Neptunian mystique and eloquence My concern is a grand trine in the composite chart, Mercury/Jupiter/Venus all conjunct in the 1st (pisces) trine Moon/North node conjunct in the 5th (cancer) and Neptune the chart ruler in the 9th (Scopio). How does the 12th manifest when the planet is also conjunct the Asc? Wow, everything in this article is so accurate + written so beautifully. so we find the True in each other. I live a bliss and despair relation for about 2 years but definite we are totally different persons than before met each other (we are old enough!). Telepathy, visiting one another out of body, lucid dreaming where they communicate with one another, strange psychic links and melding of the two energetic bodies. *Also in synastry- my Vesta conjunct NN in Gemini are the degree right before his Ascendant. If a commitment to each other happens, the seventh and eighth houses come more clearly into focus. But it was very devastating experience getting physical, it really failed the first time and we didnt try it again. After I read and then I re-read this was the conclusion that I am more confused than before but more peaceful and more tolerant with my fate. The composite chart has Sun/Jupiter conjunct by degree in the 12th in Scorpio, moon in the 12th in late Libra, and Scorpio rising. When it comes to relationship troubles, try taking an alternative approach. This might lead to a sense of belonging and having a lot of things in common. *Composite Chiron conjunct Moon in Taurus in 12th house. I noticed you dont offer composite readings. Is there nothing better to hope for? That was over three years ago. So I had to find an answer without destroying so many other lives or breaking up relationships. The midpoint chart reveals the relationship on another level entirely. The Uranus/Mercury conjunction in the composite can make the relationship more mental than physical. We feel it has a nebulous, yet mysteriously powerful influence on our lives when we have planets there, even though we cant quite fathom the type of influence it wieldsare we being seduced to a precipitous cliff by external forces, or are the demons within driving us to the edge? We have Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Uranus in the 12th house in our composite chart. The Davison chart is a time/space chart and is anchored in the here and now. now chiron. All that subconscious provoking of each other is very much a full time job and its preventing me from being successful in life and meeting a man that can offer the support i need to really fly. He says what on thinking. or is it irrelevant ? Because, of Saturn and Pluto? How that manifests depends on other aspects. I am at a point where Im in limbo and ready to let go if necessary, but I am paralyzed by the confusion and inability to understand whats at the root of what led us to this point. Found the site while trying to decipher a stellium in a composite 12th house. thanks Dawn for your reply. Composite Sun in the 2nd House. The Pluto struggle with the ego and power will engage with the partners planetsin a positive way, the partner can become a guide. We also have Sun conjunct Saturn, Saturn trine Moon double whammy, Sun conjunct North Node double whammy, his venus conjunct my ascendant, My Mercury conjunct his ascendant, our moons conjunct in aries, Sun opposite Sun, Mercury opposite Mercury, and Venus opposite Venus, all within 3 degrees. (Were married 16 years, and now we are old!) Also my moon is conjuct to his sun both ways. Our date was perfect but too creepy cause he told his very deep secrets and early regrets to me. We also have 3 composite planets and an asteroid in house 8. Jupiter Rx in the 7th in Leo. We both feel we have been together over many lifetimes. Transit Uranus in the Composite 12th House. and then mars, Jupiter and neptune in the 2nd. intresting to know why its so bad. They have to learn to work togetherthats the challenge. In composite we have north node in 12th. The weirdness of the 12th usually happens when one or both of the other parties has a heavy 12th influence in the natal. Note that composite Venus (12th house) is trine Jupiter/Cupido by implication through its trine with Ceres at 29 Libra. This is brilliant and compassionate. If the fears arent dealt with (and the fears include loss of all kinds), it can get projected and the world itself can become the enemy. When transit Jupiter is in the composite 12th house, you may have more opportunities to come together behind the scenes, behind closed doors, when no one is watching, and in a professional relationship, this can be how you make lots of progress together. Saturn and Pluto also play their part. I love him more than Ive ever loved any man I knew immediately. His north node in his 12th in pisces which means he will have to travel from a more material existence to a spiritual one in his lifetime, but that could take another 20 years. Covered Here: The Composite 12th House in the Signs Composite Planets in the 12th House Transit Planets in the Composite 12th House But on the whole the midpoint chart is a chart about the essence and purpose of a relationship and the Davison chart is more about the external realities of a relationship. While separated from his girlfriend and in the final stages of breaking it off with her, we had several secret liaisons- more 12th house. Knowing him has felt like a blessing and a curse, and yet, to this day, I do not regret falling in love with him that night 10 years ago. In my experience, if you have a good synastry but a difficult composite, the couple get along with one another but have problems establishing the relationship in the outside world. We have met up a few times since then, but our feelings for each other were immediate and are exceptionally strong even without the benefit of an active physical relationship. Thank you for this series of articles! Was our purpose to heal each other? Venus In 12th House, Venus In Twelfth House Meaning, Venus In 12th Definitely karmic and unbreakable. Dont worry, Evelyne. Posts: 28 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014: posted January 23, 2014 08:42 PM Hi, . We grasp for the handrail, and find nothing to hold on to. This is a complicated question and needs a subtle analysis in the chart, but on the whole, planets in the first house side of the angle center around the development of a healthy sense of Self, of ego, whereas planets on the 12th house side of the angle will be dealing with karma surrounding ego choices, and the planets will take on a more archetypal energy and effect. Since each of us share a natal 12th house dominion, then repeated in a shared composite strength, what you have said in your 12th house explanations all seem to feel so true. Sorry, aja, this is too much information to handle in this space. do you have any clue of what this means or should i just ignore it? However, when I examine our composite chart, I was shocked. We both have natal moon in house 12. Me and my sweet friend have Sun, Venus and Mercury in Cancer in the 12th, trine Neptune in Scorpio in the 5th, sextile Moon in Taurus in the 10th, but square Saturn in Virgo in the 3rd. This compo Pisces Lilith in house 12 falls on the exact degree of my natal Waldemath H58 , and she also falls on his natal antivertex. In my experience, the Davison chart reveals more of the day to day reality, and the midpoint chart reveals the inner working dynamic. Well it is a living hell right now! I read our full synastry report, using dual cosmodynes, and the outcome was very positive and harmonic, scoring pretty much above the average! We have a composite 12th house sun mars and venus in Cancer! By the way, in progressions, you very clearly see the influence of both planets at work. Now, what to think of this powerful symbolism in the composite chart? You are great!!!!!!!!!!! Its what happens when a sensitive person loves another human being. Thanks for the kind and helpful words, Dawn. Thank you in advance. such is the nature of the 12th, beautiful and terrible.! Its a huge task, but often one the 12th house couple is uniquely suited for.]. Im not wanting to drag him to the floor yet. Hi HGOf course, these articles cant contain every single exception, and the whole chart has to be taken into consideration. The aspects of the composite Moon will show how effectively they deal with the energies. Well, his descendant point, and his ascendant ruler both conjunct my natal Lilith in my12 th house, orb2. Yes There is a higher purpose to these relationships. I feel that our connection is a long term one over many lifetimes. But there will be some crisis where they have to define their love and anchor it some useful purpose. Thank You very much for Your answer and very best regards from Hungary again! As a 12th house person, I finally realized I enjoy the confusion. The lesson they teach is that we do not have to possess love in order to experience it. Hi Daw Sense of self and feeling of completeness comes from your identification with the Divine. I herd that the good connections between the 1st house rulers and 7 th rulers are so important an the good saturn aspects also. The various areas of your life where there might be certain effects cannot be pinpointed as this stage is a little bit vague. Instant connection, followed by a break up 5 days after, followed by getting back together 1 week later, on and off, on and off formally breaking up in 9 months, and yet professing how we never stopped loving each other two years after that (If you want to find someone else, if you want to marry someone else, I will not stop you, but know this. When there are clusters of planets there are no simple solutions. Is this similar for composite ruler in 12th? The 12th house in astrology is the hardest part of your chart to get to know. I have read your response about 12th house and i really do agree with you. There is a feeling of neglect present spiritually. Obviously, I thought this man was my soulmate. In the Davison, we have Saturn, Moon, Pluto, and Venus Conjunct in the 12th house. hi dawn People who fight for justice for others often have Juno prominent in the chart. Neptune is also in the 12th, but hanging back a bit and squaring Neptune- yikes. In my opinion the midpoint composite is not really true, because our midpoint chart doesnt show the very intense physical love what we live together. My sympathies. Curious about the sexual response (if there will be anything), its friendly. Im sure your midpoint chart is valid if you had it read properly. When transit Mars is in the composite 12th house, you may become aware of subconscious drivers and motivators in your relationship, and this can help you gain a better understanding of one another. hi dawn:) Composite Pluto in the 9th house: There is an added layer of complexity to their combined life philosophy. We have a composite Pisces Ascendant (3) with a Pisces Saturn in 12 conjunct Ascendant. Its difficult because boundaries dissolve and we find it hard to maintain our separateness, which is necessary in a healthy relationship. We talk with each other and I know he loved me and still does like me , we talk in the church when we can but none of us really telling the real story (which is so 12 house thing). With a lot of respect for all of your work and wishing you all the best. I could love this man more than my husband who is a caring man and in a way very similar to this man. Have you any thoughts or words to share on the 12th house commonalities we have individually, and what impact it lends to us as a couple? Talking about Fate! We tried to stop but we couldnt be in the same room aloneI know it sounds nothing more than two horny people getting together but it really wasnt the same..or was it? Now we hate each other and nothing made sense. The Inner Wheel Recommended Astrology Reading Lists, Crucible and the Wheel: The Transiting Nodes Series. The Composite Chart: Relationship Astrology Im sorry to hear your story. We all find our gods where we can and must. I live in a kind of constant daydream /illusion of being near my beloved ghost I know this is not truth , but I dont know how I could do without. Juno is not only about romantic partnerships, but has to do with equality in general. We are still friends and well always love each other. But exploring worlds during sex, soul bonding, feeling understood at a deep level, feeling at home in the spirit of the world, higher purpose together, channeling together, these are all things ive felt with my boyfriend and our 12th house energies. Composite Sun in the Houses - South Florida Astrologer Looking at the chart, it seems to be propelling us into Aquarius, and Aquarian age type of love. Thank you for your answer. It symbolizes pealing back the layers to reveal the authentic self underneath. Saturn, NN, and Sun exact at 28 degrees, opposite Chiron Rx in Cancer. this is a very arguementative aspect.it indicates that the two of you have vastly different opinions on most everything . I don know what to do. Your email address will not be published. I mentioned Juno because it has a 1 degree conjunction with the Sun. 8th and 12th house seem to have haunted me for most of my life , Your email address will not be published. This guy in my life puts Libra venus in my 12th (conjuncting my own Libra venus in 12th). Also, I would think that the answer to your issues is not in the composite, but in your natal comparison. Synastries (especially composite charts) are complicated and if confused (or you feel threatened) you should consult a professional. But I think you can count on that Jupiter for evoking good will between you should you decide to reconcile.